This retreat into theological gobbledygook is standard procedure throughout the book, in which pregnant suggestions and hanging questions are used to plant doubts, rather than making direct assertions regarding the unreliability of the Bible. Erin, the student who has been part of the campus conservative club, The Way, has begun to question many things she had formerly taken for granted, such as the inerrancy of the Bible.
Then, over the Christmas break, she learned that her younger brother is gay, and she is caught between her feelings for her brother and what the Bible says about homosexuality. Like planting two kinds o seed in the same field or wearing garments made of two kinds of cloth—I mean that would rule out blends. And what they say about two of the three verses in the New Testament about homosexuality makes sense to me—that they probably refer to an older man having sex with a young boy… But the part of the New Testament that I still have trouble with is that passage from Paul in Romans….
Kate has her read the next verse. And so might be readers of the book who fail to compare the quotation before them with their own Bibles—for the words appear to be part of the sacred text, despite being placed in a parenthesis. Things then get worse in the counseling session: Truly, wickedness is at work in this book. Nor do they believe Jesus came to Earth to die as the Lamb of God. All these things, they insist, were claimed for Him, after His death, by His followers pages Later we learn that Kate shares this belief with Martin page Additionally, in perhaps the only inclusion of real persons in the book, Brian McLaren and Jim Wallis are recommended by a faculty member of the seminary that is inviting Kate to fill a temporary position.
The sea is calm tonight, The tide is full, the moon lies fair Upon the straits—on the French coast the light Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand, Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay. Come to the window, sweet is the night-air! You hear the grating roar Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling, At their return, up the high strand, Begin, and cease, and then again begin, With tremulous cadence slow, and bring The eternal note of sadness in.
Sophocles long ago Heard it on the Aegean, and it brought Into his mind the turbid ebb and flow Of human misery; we Find also in the sound a thought, Hearing it by this distant northern sea. Ah, love, let us be true To one another! For the world, which seems To lie before us like a land of dreams, So various, so beautiful, so new, Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain; And we are here as on a darkling plain Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight, Where ignorant armies clash by night.
Yet the tale is true only on the surface, for God, who cannot lie, has sworn that the gates of hell shall not prevail against His church. We are called to live as pilgrims and sojourners in a strange land, for this land is not our true home: But it dawned on me eventually that he is describing Erin, the girl who came to college clinging to her childhood faith, and lost it in the blaze of the Enlightenment. Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked. Learning to Doubt Marcus J. It is a theme he introduces early and often throughout the book, as the following dialog illustrates: The Bible is the exception?
The next is that night at a meeting of The Way. Borg puts in a lot of information, almost proselytizing, about Episcopalians. Most of us are pretty comfortable. Becoming reenchanted, I guess. What matters is what we do with whatever wealth and influence we have.
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Do we use it to preserve the way things are? Or do we use it to make the world a better place? Texts that may be worth reading include: The Responsible Self by H. What are their — issues? Title from Paul, 1st Corinthians How applicable to novel? What childish ways in their thoughts and behaviors? How have they put an end to these? Mar 17, Robin rated it liked it. His heroine teaches religion at a small liberal arts college, is a regular pray-er and church goer and so combines progressive liberal Christianity with a real love of Jesus.
She is courted by a divinity school and faces a decision about whether to leave what is secure and follow this challenge. Other primary characters include her students who begin from various places on the theological spectrum, colleagues at her current school, and a mentor who is now teaching at the divinity school.
Lecture notes, sermon outlines, and class handouts all give Borg a chance to draw on work he has done. May 27, Bryn Clark rated it it was ok. Two stars seems harsh, so let me explain: The characters were all caricatures, which is to be expected. May 23, Kathy rated it really liked it. Not the greatest novel I've ever read, but this book gave me some insights into Borg's world of academia, and specifically the world of religious study. It made me realize that a scholar of religion is not necessarily a believer, which would probably come as a shock for many who are believers. I found the characters likable, the conversations stimulating, and I especially liked the development of the relationships among the students and between students and faculty.
A good companion to Borg's no Not the greatest novel I've ever read, but this book gave me some insights into Borg's world of academia, and specifically the world of religious study. A good companion to Borg's nonfiction writing. Jun 05, Karen rated it did not like it. Did not answer any of my questions about faith. Main character too loose.
I could not relate. The main character's smoking drove me crazy. Always wanting a cigarette. I have no respect for a character that cannot quit the habit. Yet, she was "so faithful. Jul 15, Donna rated it it was ok. For new followers of Christ - confusion they do not need. Some slightly interesting theories about historical accuracy of Bible - nothing to see here.
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I liked Kate - but could not connect with any other characters. Characters not developed enough - could barely visualize them. Aug 29, Marni rated it really liked it. A wonderful weaving of Borg's thoughts in novel form. I should probably write this "review" after my impressions have settled down and focused. I read this book because it is by Borg and we have been informally sharing it in Bible Study. I'm all over the place right now about how I feel about the book: The way the story unfolded kept me wanting to read. Yet the details in the book irritate me. Your first novel, and this is Borg's first, is autobiographical.
And in Putting Away Child I should probably write this "review" after my impressions have settled down and focused. I, especially, learned that he is too hip. He shops at Whole Foods, has great clothes, teaches at some smart school and has smart-thinking friends; he has the doubts and fears that we all have, but he has meticulous habits.
He even smokes, something, every day, whether a pipe or cigarettes or both. The women in his life are fashionably successful and don't cook. The men are also successful and do cook for the women; not everyday life-giving sustenance, but expensive and fanciful dishes that can be seen on TV cooking shows. Borg, whom I nearly worshipped and disagreed with frequently before this book, is now a bland, aging white guy who is so predictable that he is boring.
And he doesn't really do anything except think and talk and doubt. Oh, and he drinks a lot of wine and knows what he is drinking. That brings me to my own conflict in my life: I couldn't do anything really except think, so I taught school. I loved the image of the academic life and this book reinforces that image.
But now my life is full of activity, growth and making actual objects from photographs to cooking, preserving food, making bread and selling herbs. Everything I do contributes to my ability to live and doesn't only add to my quality of life. My quality of life is now improved because of this: I feel honest fulfillment and not the abstract fulfillment of thought.
This is working for me and won't work for many others. However, it points out to me the different directions that life can take and the different needs that people have. Therefore, I recommend this book for anybody: If you are not religious, it may help you think some ideas through. The book is full of ideas and theological controversy about the nature of Christianity. You are not challenged to change the way you live your life. You are only asked to consider some ideas. That may seem easy but it isn't. If you change your ideas about Biblical interpretation and the nature of Jesus, you risk having to change your life to become more fully Christian.
What can I do to prevent this in the future?
Yet, being as full a Christian as you can be seems, to me, to be the best gift that life can hold. I just wish that Borg had not taken the road most taken and had lived a more engaging life so that he could point to events and say this occurred and that occurred and that is how I came to believe what I believe much like C. As it is, the best Borg can do is quote other theologians and philosophers from throughout history.
His story is not inspiring and his quotes are not, it seems, pithy enough to prevent his overuse of the thoughts of other theologians. That is a shame. Apr 22, Sverre rated it it was ok Shelves: But this is a teacher's novel with the main characters lecturing to students or each other and the reader which can be interesting or mind-numbing depending on where you are positioned in the theological spectrum. It is unlikely that readers who have little interest in theology will get very far with this book.
It may convert a few conservative Christians to become progressive, or at least more open to understanding a less literalistic theology. For those who are well informed about both schools of thought this book will hold few surprises and may even test their patience to reach the last page. A page turner it is not. For those familiar with Borg's other books, the question that begs an answer is whether this book serves a purpose in widening the appeal of a theologically liberal worldview. The answer is probably a strong maybe.
The heroine of the story is Kate Riley, a professor of religion in a small liberal arts college. The main supportive character--Kate's lover from twenty years earlier--is Martin Erikson perhaps Borg's alter ego , a professor at a prestigious divinity school. Kate is offered a lucrative one year visiting professorship at Martin's school. The conflict is whether Kate should disrupt her present position, and risk losing her consideration for tenure, by applying for the temporary position.
Kate and Martin's sham posturing, tippy-toeing around the rather obvious goal they both have of resuming their relationship as soon as possible seems banal and ordinary when sandwiched between the scholarly expositions. A prominent side story in the novel has to do with a millionaire's offer to anonymously endow a chair in evangelical theology to Martin's divinity school. This element of the book does not tie into the main character, Kate, at all. After finishing the book the reader may ask what that story element contributed to the overall worth of the novel, other than taking up space.
Kate's difficulty in resolving the conflict about whether to accept the divinity school position seems too tedious a process, complete with psychoanalytic introspection--lacklustre in divine inspiration. It seems every modern progressive novel has to have at least one token gay person to vouch for the author's sophistication. In this case it is Kate's friend Geoff who provides her with a sexually safe "pasteurized" friendship, and it seems somewhat contrived.
And, say, what's with most of the characters in this book being so tobacco, nicotine and caffeine dependent? Can't there be a loftier puritan ethic to these characters? A novel was worth a try, but please, Marcus, stick with the learned treatise next time. May 07, Lee Harmon rated it it was amazing. The main character, Bible scholar and professor Kate Riley, is a progressive Christian with a devotion as strong as any fundamentalist believer. For a glimpse of how Kate lives as a Christian, we might peek into one of her lectures.
The success of the scientific method led many people to think of truth as what can be verified, and what can be verified came to be identified with facts. He lays bare what life and Christian practice is like for a liberal Christian. As I said earlier, this book is about believing, a word that more traditional Christians have a hard time associating with progressive Christians.bolyarskiimoti.com/components/karmic/jylez-cancer-february.php
Putting Away Childish Things: A Tale of Modern Faith
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Is a progressive liberal Christian a real Christian or a mockery of true Christianity? Here is what makes this book fascinating to me: But for anyone trying to understand the progressive viewpoint, the climax is beautifully sculpted. Apr 24, Matt rated it really liked it. Borg is a very fine New Testament scholar and a good popularizer of liberal theology.
I've never been dissappointed by his books. I am happy to report that Borg's first work of fiction is no exception to this rule. The story is solid and engaging, the plot has an intrinic interest, and - like his non-fiction - the prose is just plain enjoyable. Borg is candid that he is not writing to produce masterpiece fiction here. And indeed, as a work of fiction there are some plot holes, and worse some und Borg is a very fine New Testament scholar and a good popularizer of liberal theology.
And indeed, as a work of fiction there are some plot holes, and worse some underdeveloped characters and unresolved conflicts, one quite major! But the fiction, as fiction, is decent and enjoyable despite these flaws. The heart of the book, however, is not the storyline. Borg uses the form of a story to show how the theological struggles he has long written about play out in the lives of genuine individuals from all manner of perspectives.
Basic Liberal theology is well described by Borg's characters, and the various reactions to it, ranging from fear and confusion to curiosity and excitement. Most interestingly, Borg presents his liberal christians as passionate about their faith. God is central to their lives. There is a tendancy to think of Christians who embrace liberal theology as lukewarm about their faith. This is false, and Borg brilliantly creates characters who prove that a more progressive theology can, or rather should, go hand in and with passionate faith.
Borg's book is not merely a primer in liberal theology, not simply pop evangelism in fictional wrapping. This is a book about true spirituality, about real faith. By the end of the novel we have come to learn something very important about faith. We have learned to let go of anxiety and give ourselves over to the divine in an act of trust. Unless you are an anti-religous atheist or a religous fundamentalist both groups are too closed off to faith and divinity for this book I highly recommend sitting down and letting Dr.
Borg tell you a story this summer. I have not read any of Borg's non-fiction work, but I think I would like it better. This book has many good, thought provoking ideas. It has a few good storylines. As a novel, however, it is lacking. There are way too many stories going on at the same time. There's Kate's teaching, Kate's dilemma over which school to go to, the liberal Christian study group, The Way group, Marcus's story, Scudder's donor Even harder for me to tolerate were the characters.
Many characters were caricatures, cre I have not read any of Borg's non-fiction work, but I think I would like it better. Many characters were caricatures, created perfectly for their part in the book. Apart from the part they played, they had little substance. Erin never actually grew or deepened. Although she questioned her faith more, she remained a confused, conflicted, 2-D character.
Vincent remained a set, one track mind character with no point other than his role in the school. The main characters had the potential to be fuller bodied. Instead, they were, frankly, messes. Looking at Kate, we see a woman who was, with friends, indecisive and dependent. However, at work, she became intelligent and deep. Still further, at home, she morphed into a faithful, practicing Christian unlike her usual self.
Throughout the book, she stayed a shallow character who never grew or developed past what she was in the first chapter.
Despite its problems as a novel, its messages and ideas are valuable. I would be curious to read more of Borg's work. Mar 13, Rebecca rated it really liked it Shelves: I'll be honest and say that I'd like to give this book two different ratings. As a novel, I'd give it only three, maybe 3. As a "didatic novel" what Borg calls it , it rates higher hence the four stars. So, in the end, I think I really wanted to read a novel, not the latter. On a personal level, I had a lot in common with the protagonist, Kate--a young introspective professor, who drives a red Volvo!
Borg does a good job of developing her character as well as presenting a vivid suppor I'll be honest and say that I'd like to give this book two different ratings. Borg does a good job of developing her character as well as presenting a vivid supporting cast in Fredrika, Geoff, and to some extent, Martin although I wanted more there. Depending on the reader's background in theology and desire for it, this novel will at times seem tedious as the various characters exchange in Christian theological discussions which are largely meant to educate the reader.
I felt the classroom discussions were rather contrived, although I congratulate Marcus Borg if those discussions were based on his actual teaching experience. Kate's class is one that most professors will only dream of having. There was, however, quite a bit that touched me in this novel, largely through the protagonist. Universal themes of rejection, self-doubt, growth, leaps of faith--it is all there, and much of it was very resonant as I am familiar with the political environment of academia.
I admire Borg's non-fiction writing to a tremendous degree and hope that a second novel will aim to be less didactic, perhaps, because the strength of this novel was actually obfuscated by the "teaching" aspect. Aug 08, Carolyn Lind rated it really liked it Shelves: My enjoyment of this didactic novel was enhanced by the fact that I had recently read a couple other or his nonfiction books; this novel was a bit like an interesting review of those readings.
For readers interested in Borg's theology, this would not be my first recommendation; I would first recommend "The Heart of Christianity" where you can really get to the heart of the theology that is woven through out this novel. In "Putting Away Childish Things" it was interesting to read answers to stude My enjoyment of this didactic novel was enhanced by the fact that I had recently read a couple other or his nonfiction books; this novel was a bit like an interesting review of those readings.
In "Putting Away Childish Things" it was interesting to read answers to students' questions; the same questions I might have as I read Marcus Borg's books. If I was basing my rating purely on the novel, it would not rate this high; but as it enhanced my earlier reading, "I really liked it". The opposite of faith as trust is not doubt or skepticism or unbelief, but anxiety, worry, and fear Richard Niebuhr's "The Responsible Self".
And the poem by Denise Levertov illustrating the meaning of 'faith': As swimmers dare to lie face to the sky and water bears them, as hawks rest upon air and air sustains them; so would I learn to attain freefall, and float into Creator Spirit's deep embrace knowing no effort earns that all-surrounding grace.
Marcus Borg's "Putting Away Childish Things": A Review
Jun 13, Lynn rated it really liked it. Borg tells a good story - a "page turner. Author Marcus Borg seems to be encouraging readers to not dumb down our pursuit of understanding Jesus, St. Paul, the Bible, the Divine, and other topics about traditional, largely judeo-christian beliefs. Author Borg seems to desire to avoid slick and easy answers Borg tells a good story - a "page turner.
Author Borg seems to desire to avoid slick and easy answers to important questions about justice and faith. The book asks questions and has a section that can easily be incorporated in a book study. So, Borg asks us to reflect upon important implications that we may not be taking time to consider in our busy daily lives. I actually have finished my first reading of the book and intend to re-read it for a book group I will be attending. Although couched in a contemporary story, the depth of thought the author actually conveys is impressive and on second thought appears to be surprisingly well contrived.
Borg incorporates a bunch of sources, which form a nice bibliography of christian theology to be explored, while revealing the spiritual dimensions of faith that may have eluded many of us "moderns. Apr 01, Steve rated it really liked it. One is always a bit cautious when considering a novel written by an academic.
Happily in this case those fears prove largely unfounded. As a story this book reads surprisingly well, even considering the author's admission that it is a "teaching" novel. The characters feel real, the conflicts and story lines are far from foregone conclusions, and I found myself caring about what happens next and what decisions the characters would make.
I would perhaps have liked to know a bit more about what happens in a few instances, but it is an ending I can live with. Regarding the subject being "taught" in this "teaching novel," different folks will have different opinions, of course. I found the arguments and propositions compelling and well reasoned for the most part.
It is certainly a book that will challenge the usual belief systems, hopefully in ways that will prove valuable no matter where one eventually lands on these particular points. Feb 25, Janice rated it liked it Shelves: Borg prefaces this work as a "didactic" novel; a teaching novel.
And, if the reader is not familiar with the name Marcus Borg, the reader will most likely be disappointed. I personally find this a novel idea. Wrapping his theology among several characters, principally, seminary and academia professors and then having their students wrestle and absorb exposes the reader to both pre and post Enlightenment Christianity, or at least Borg's version.
As a novel, it's not much, perhaps one star. Kate, Borg prefaces this work as a "didactic" novel; a teaching novel. Kate, except when teaching, is whinny and indecisive, leaving me to wonder how she ever achieved academic success. But, then again, I know someone just like her in real life. And Martin, who can't even contemplate brainstorming without his pipe and glass of wine in hand? And, the mysterious financial donor was a clumsy insertion. So, great theology; ho-hum novel. Jun 06, Kristin rated it it was ok Shelves:
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